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  Friday December 4 2020
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Hello everyone !

Currently in the process of creating an agency template, I would like to configure my room nomenclature so as to have:
- Name - Area - Level - HSP.
In my workspace I managed to integrate an hsp label in my part, but the hsp value is not reflected in the nomenclature.

Could someone help me ??

Thank you in advance.

Jeremy
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What software?
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Hello,

Given the terms used, I deduce that it is Revit. However, I agree with Christophe Fortineau's question and urge you to specify the software concerned, in your next requests.

To populate the HSP in a room tag (or for any other tag, for that matter), you need to create a shared parameter. Only shared parameters allow this kind of relationship between properties of families / labels / BOMs.

You will find the procedure in Thread.

As I researched this old topic, I realized how bad the site's search engine is. If a competent person walks by and reads this, it would be good to find a more efficient solution.
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Bonsoir

Method leaves. Don't forget to use fx to set the calculated parameter HSP = Volume / Area

@ more
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Hello

The default room label can find the height of the room that you find in the nomenclature but not necessarily the real height of the false ceiling

Example ceiling of different levels in the room or inclined

The best remains the level coast on a false ceiling
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Bonsoir

Hello

Example ceiling of different levels in the room or inclined


And yes, with Volume / area, we only have the HSP average :
* When there are several heights of ceiling, try to do with one or more room dividers,
* and in the case of sloped ceilings, does it still make sense to talk about HSP room by room?

@ more
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Hello,

In addition to what Michaël Fauchet said, I would also like to point out that this calculation depends on the setting of the properties of the part, as explained here, and the activation of the volume calculation.

This automatic calculation therefore works very well for fairly conventional structures with floors aligned with levels and single, horizontal ceilings, no drop-down ceilings, no sloped ceilings, no floor recesses, etc. As soon as you have a more complex structure, this solution is no longer used and you will then have to favor the shared parameter.

Likewise, in the link proposed by Francis L'Haridon, mention is made of the ceiling views to directly label the ceiling and not the room. This in itself is the normal behavior of Revit, however this solution also does not return the expected result when the floor is higher or lower than the associated level, because the ceiling label is based on the offset of the floor. ceiling in relation to the level and not to the ground.
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Hello everybody

Excuse me, this is REVIT.
Thank you very much for your answers I think I can get by.

See you soon
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To add a little grain of salt, given the uncertainties of HSP:

It would be good to indicate in the nomenclature whether there is a false ceiling or false floor, an inclined ceiling, steps or ramp in the room, a beam drop ...

Have a good day :)
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Hello,

To make my contribution, the notion of architectural or technical "room" (BET but also FM) differs.

I therefore ask my architects to model the room from the "level on lower slab" to "sub slab of the upper level" and to add the HSP levels in an attribute, which also facilitates the automation of the filling.
This makes it possible to integrate the names of the corresponding rooms into the objects of false ceilings and false floors.

cordialement,
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for info, in the PO BIM properties:
https://www.datbim.com/Produit-ESPACE_DUSAGE-1510136687475.html
there are 3 heights

Height free of any obstacle in the use space
Free height under obstacle
Clear height over obstacle
Width of use space
Length of usage space
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Hello

If you go to a section and activate the filling and reference subcategories in the graphics dialog box in the room category, you can set the height freely under the false ceiling or under the slab.
Then, depending on the case, in comments we can add a suffix that we will associate in the nomenclature with the category Height not linked.
Attention by default the latter corresponds to 9 feet. To set it to 2.5m by default, dynamo must be used.
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